roe v. wade wasn't reversed. >> now, romney has stated clearly it is his personal desire to reverse roe versus wade. now he has surrogates out there saying, this isn't going to happen. i mean, this -- you're talking about etch-a-sketch, this is amazing. >> i am shocked, reverend, that you're shocked that someone connected to the romney campaign might say something that's not all together true. i mean, look at what we've seen for the last couple of weeks. mitt romney has been making -- in essence, making a u-turn at 60 miles per hour on a crowded freeway and don't say, don't pay any attention to this. i'm a moderate. i'm not going to do anything with abortion. boy, do i love the immigrants now. >> and, david, i get -- and, david, what you're saying at the same time, looking at mitt romney right now, when i was growing up my mom said you are who your friends are. what you're saying is exactly right.